Charles Fourier
| Charles Fourier | |
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| Name: | Fourier, Charles |
| Birth: | April 7, 1772 |
| Death: | October 10, 1837 |
| Job: | unknown |
| Ethnicity: | unknown |
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Charles Fourier was the founder of utopian socialism, a feminist who coined the word feminism, "satirical" rape apologist, and someone who sincerely wanted to organize society into mass communal buildings ("Phalansteries", or "Phalanx"s) which would provide a, "sexual minimum", for everyone, including incels.[1]
He wanted his utopias to have various organizations devoted to sexually helping the rejected without being paid.[2]
Fourier was never known to have a love affair with a woman,[3] which is thought to have created frustration which drove his sexual fantasies, and likely contributed to his utopian vision of eliminating sexual frustration.[4]
Fourier vs. others[edit]
Fourier, articulated sexual inequality as a large causative factor of various social ills,[5] instead of solely focusing his critiques on alienation and economic exploitation. Fourier coincided with Owen, and preceded Marcy, Clouscard, Houellebecq, Reich, Nagle and Undersky in his sympathy for incels from a leftist perspective. Like Undersky, and unlike the much less libertarian Michel Houellebecq, Fourier portrays sexual liberalism as inherently good for incels. Although, only without markets in general and under certain other circumstances. His sex specific writings were not widely known during his lifetime, and were rediscovered in the 1960s.[6]
Fourier vs Robert Owen[edit]
Robert Owen was a famous capitalist-turned-socialist who, like Fourier, is criticized by Marxists as, "utopian socialist". Owen and Fourier both lived in the same period and advocated many of the same positions. Robert Owen proposed encouraging monogamous marriage as a way to prevent what he believed to be the negative effects of celibacy beyond puberty.
Celibacy in either sex, beyond the period designated for nature, is not a virtue, but on the contrary a crime against nature, causing other unnatural crimes. [...] Marriage will be encouraged, and celibacy discouraged as a cause leading to disease [of] the body and mind, and to unnatural thoughts, feelings and conduct.
—Robert Owen[7]
This is in contrast to Fourier, who also wanted something akin to guaranteed sex, but instead under the assumption that it could be socially engineered and/or voluntary. Fourier also fantasized about polygamy, and was not particularly focused on monogamy. The fact that Owen made his comments in earnest, makes it seem more likely that Fourier's somewhat similar rambling was not all in jest.
An anonymous member of the Paris commune of 1871, elaborated on Robert Owen, and wrote in exile that inceldom is harmful because of the natural strength of men's sex drive in their late teenage years. The anonymous Paris communard also wrote that inceldom was harmful because he believed it led to wet dreams, which in turn led to yesfap, which he believed was immoral.
The Phalanx[edit]
He wanted to organize all of humanity into self-contained utopian communities, each in its own building called a Phalanx.
Nightly communal love recreation[edit]
After the children went to bed, the adults who were willing were to meet at a court and recreational facility that provided orgies, recreational sex, and monogamy regulation. There were various voluntary organizations called 'corporations' that people were encouraged to join and were based on their personality. The corporations each had a sexual role, some were even monogamous.
Personality ID[edit]
Each person in the Phalanx had a card which identified their personality and preferences, which was used by Phalanx officials to pair strangers up in erotic situations.
Psychologists were to identify sexual needs[edit]
Everyone in the Phalanx would periodically meet a female psychologist who would ascertain what kind of sexual and employment needs they had at the moment, in order to best directly meet their needs through others in the Phalanx.
Non paid volunteers were to have sex with incels[edit]
Women in the 'Damselate' corporation were expected to be monogamous, however if they had an inclination to be unfaithful they were assigned to an incel or old person to cheat with, as a form of 'punishment'. [8] Servicing incels was also a general punishment for breaking rules in a corporation.
There was also a more formal charity for incels. Various non-paid volunteer organizations were to be set up for sexually servicing incels.[9]
In fact, everyone was guaranteed sexual relationships, sort of like a basic income. This was proposed to be done by subordinating love to honor and nobility.[10]
A blackpill female commentator on Fourier named Amia Srinivasan insists that paraphrased "itsOVER for incels", and says it would be impossible to find someone for everyone. And then sort of praising sex as mysterious. Sort of a combination of an ill-informed, unsourced assertion and a reification of discrimination.[11]
Views on markets[edit]
Charles had a view that people were naturally cooperative and suited to work without markets. And the job of society was to eliminate markets, punish trade-oriented people in society (Jews in his mind),[12] establish a code or honor, and simply help people find their needs and niches. He felt this would more or less entitle everyone to jobs and sex as he felt enough non-Jews would see that as honorable.
Quotes[edit]
“”Oblivious of their obligation to provide a minimum of subsistence, the law-makers are even less willing to grant a minimum of sexual gratification. They suppose that the sexual needs are less urgent than the need for food. This is an error. Even though a person can do without sexual intercourse but not without food, it is certain that the need for tactile or sensual pleasures causes as many social disorders as does the need for subsistence.
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| —Fourier |
“”In 1816 a young man was prosecuted in the French courts for having raped six women whose ages ranged from sixty to eighty. (No doubt he raped a good many others who were not heard of.) His trial was discussed in all the journals. . . . The man was found guilty and sentenced. Yet it might have been wiser to distribute pieces of his clothing as religious relics to inspire imitation of his fine example. It is evident that this young paragon was acting out of need, and it is also evident that the sexual needs of men and women can become just as urgent as their need for food.
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| —Fourier |
See also[edit]
- Hippiepill
- Alex Undersky
- Wilhelm Reich
- The Utopian Vision of Charles Fourier: Selected Texts on Work, Love, and Passionate Attraction
References
- ↑ https://www.independent.co.uk/news/long_reads/incel-what-is-involuntary-celibates-elliot-rodger-alek-minassian-canada-terrorism-a8335816.html
- ↑ https://archive.org/stream/TheUtopianVisionOfCharlesFourierSelectedTextsOnWorkLoveAndPassionateAttraction/The%20Utopian%20Vision%20of%20Charles%20Fourier_%20Selected%20Texts%20on%20Work%2C%20Love%20and%20Passionate%20Attraction_djvu.txt
- ↑ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6P8vDPZV3UM 4:14
- ↑ https://archive.org/stream/TheUtopianVisionOfCharlesFourierSelectedTextsOnWorkLoveAndPassionateAttraction/The%20Utopian%20Vision%20of%20Charles%20Fourier_%20Selected%20Texts%20on%20Work%2C%20Love%20and%20Passionate%20Attraction_djvu.txt
- ↑ The Utopian Vision of Charles Fourier, 1983, pg 339
- ↑ Beecher, J. Bienvenu, R. 1971. The Utopian Vision of Charles Fourier. pp 329.
- ↑ Book: Social Architecture: Or, Reasons and Means for the Demolition and Reconstruction of the Social Edifice, by anonymous Paris Communard, written in exile 1876
- ↑ https://archive.org/stream/TheUtopianVisionOfCharlesFourierSelectedTextsOnWorkLoveAndPassionateAttraction/The%20Utopian%20Vision%20of%20Charles%20Fourier_%20Selected%20Texts%20on%20Work%2C%20Love%20and%20Passionate%20Attraction_djvu.txt
- ↑ https://archive.org/stream/TheUtopianVisionOfCharlesFourierSelectedTextsOnWorkLoveAndPassionateAttraction/The%20Utopian%20Vision%20of%20Charles%20Fourier_%20Selected%20Texts%20on%20Work%2C%20Love%20and%20Passionate%20Attraction_djvu.txt
- ↑ https://www.lrb.co.uk/the-paper/v40/n06/amia-srinivasan/does-anyone-have-the-right-to-sex
- ↑ https://www.lrb.co.uk/the-paper/v40/n06/amia-srinivasan/does-anyone-have-the-right-to-sex
- ↑ Roberts, Richard H. (1995). Religion and the Transformations of Capitalism: Comparative Approaches. Routledge. p. 90
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